He was, I believe, top dog in the Orange Order: the vehemently anti-Catholic organization whose best-known figure is the frightening demagogue the Rev. This is now a historical landmark. Father Urban has succeeded as a business operator on behalf of his monastic . I do believe Irishness & Irish politics is whitewashed for Americans and presented from a certain political viewpoint. Your email address will not be published. Does anyone know why these bottles were over there ? The fact that this blog has been going for so very long tells me the myth is true. Some of the comments here are totally rediculous. I have even concocted a drink for St. Patricks day,. There is only one Catholic church in my town the rest are Baptist or other protestant. I think Irish whiskey is like Scotch, meant for sipping, not mixing. I dont know about Ireland, but in some parts of the U.S there still major problems. I even have taken a liking to Bushmills Irish Honey when Im in a cocktail mood.Not being Irish and not wanting to get political. Usually King James Version. Delicious, soothing, contemplative. @Allen: Thats just my point. Ive never even seen a bottle of Paddys (although I havent really been making an exhaustive search). About 5 or 6 years ago they flooeded Irish bars with it just before St. Paddys Day,almost forcing bars to sell off a lot of free stock they received. If I was the kind of person who blogwhored, I would http://tinyurl.com/d92kdl If you ever try a more exclusive blend or a single malt, dont dare poison it with ginger ale . Ive used Irish Whiskey in Old Fashions and Sours before with tasty results. so stop bringing religion into alcoholdrink what you like and leave the bigotry at the doorif people spent a few hours getting to know each other over a drink we wouldnt have half the discrimination we have today. I think the Middleton hurt my wallet the most. You wouldnt really understand the depth of the situation. There is a rivalry, to be sure, but it is all about business, and not about religion. Powers Gold Label is the best-selling Irish whiskey in its native Ireland. Theres not catholic or protestant whiskey. This must be one of the most pointless debates I have seen in a long time. Youd probably get glassed if you asked the question in certain places in Ireland or Scotland. Also, show some class fellas (Burnsy calling me an idiot) my grandfather who is from Tipperary lost friends because of the Black and Tans (you know the English convicts the English government set upon the Irish), in some cases they were beaten to death!! The attitudes and actions of German Catholics and Protestants during the Nazi era were shaped not only by their religious beliefs, but by other factors as well, including: Backlash against the Weimar Republicand the political, economic, and social changes in Germany that occurred during the 1920s Anti-Communism Nationalism The date of 1608 doesnt even specifically relate to that brand but that a license was granted in somewhere in that general area. If it was a genuine issue then bars wouldnt serve both. Redbreast is my favorite but I only buy a bottle or so a year. Just setting the record straight. Along with a fellow sipper we have over most of the Irish brands listed here in this thread as part of a 30+ years Christmas gift exchange and tasting session. Corvallisbarman is half right. My post was simple stating that the problem still exists. You claim that it is an Irish-American phenomenon, however up in the six counties Catholics drink Jameson and Prod-Brits drink Bushmills there is even a bit of violence attached to it. Bushmills released a statement saying:Its just one of the outrageous statements put about in an attempt to blacken our name. Love Black Bush but Jamesons Gold Reserve gets my vote as the very best Ive had. Gin with a lime is Protestant. From the outset of the Reformation, Luther and his associates had fiercely proclaimed the Christian's obligation to "be subject to the governing authorities," asserting, with Saint Paul, that "the powers that be are ordained by God . Concept of Deity. Thats like native Americans boycotting jack Daniels because of American colonialism. Counter-Reformation, also called Catholic Reformation or Catholic Revival, in the history of Christianity, the Roman Catholic efforts directed in the 16th and early 17th centuries both against the Protestant Reformation and toward internal renewal. Yet a great friend of Catholic Ireland. Wow, not one mention of Tullamore Dew. The cheap Evan Williams Black Label at half the price (in the USA)has more taste and more of a kick. Ive always preferred the non-woodsy irish Whiskeys so Powers, Knappogue, Red Breast, and recently the Spots have been my drink of choice and never was a fan of bushmills. Maybe not the best role model, but whaddaya gonna do? [3][1] The distillery, which had an output of about 6,000 gallons in its first year of operation,[4] initially traded as James Power and Son, but by 1822 had become John Power & Son,[1] and had moved to a new premises at John's Lane, a side street off Thomas Street. Nevermind the fact that it would be illegal in UK law. Right. Historically a single pot still whiskey, the flagship Powers Gold Label brand was the first Irish whiskey ever to be bottled. In all the pubs in NYC, no one seemed to really care that I noticed from either side of the bar. Then I spent another 20 minutes clicking around at random on your site, and then I ended up at this article, neatly explaining the first part of the joke. Holy moly, I dont give a rip shit about religion and in fact LOATHE the typical evangelical protestant types like Swaggart, Murdoch etc. It resulted in the creation of a branch of Christianity called Protestantism, a name used collectively to refer to the many religious groups that separated from the Roman Catholic Church due to differences in doctrine. An Italian friend, when introduced to the term Uiske Beatha thought the word was bad water and now refers to it as Aqua Sporca or dirty water. Im a Redbreast man first when feeling flush, but usually turn to Powers or the old John J when cash flow is normal. Bushmills is very proud of its long Irish heritage and yes its head distiller is catholic but if someone wants to boycott this whiskey, not for taste, but simply because it is situated in an area populated mainly by Protestants then they are the one with the problem. Last I was in Ireland, about three weeks ago, I bought two bottles at a shop for 22 each. This was a long term plan but theyve brought it forward by about 8-10 years. It is true to say it is an almost exclusively Protestant village, but otherwise it is a quiet rural area on a picturesque coastline, visited annually by thousands of tourists from both side of the divide. Of course with these kind of things mud tends to stick and some Irish-Americans wouldnt let the facts get in the way of a good anti-British story. They also bottle Powers & Paddys as well. Should these facts come into the discussion when considering whether or not to indulge in a pint of the creamy delicious black stuff!? To my certain knowledge and as am employee of Bushmills (and a Catholic by birth, but an atheist by choice), you are entirely mistaken. And I was not drunk !!! Not all American or Irish whiskies spell the word with an elike Makers Mark, George Dickel, Old Forester, Early Times or Paddy spell the word w-h-i-s-k-y. In some ways Im like woof, Thank you, @craftspiritsus for inviting me to give, CALLING ALL NACHOS AND WINGS LOVERS (okay and foot, Menu and blog update! As long as its no longer going on in the company today then enjoy. They have started construction now on a grain still on site now which means that the full three components of the blend will be produced in Tullamore. Paid 10 Euro for a shot of it in Dublin, and well worth the price. 2nd line was bottling Jameson. I am pretty sure that if you visited the Guinness brewery in Dublin your guide would not have mentioned the fact about the companys discrimination against Catholics, let alone advise on boycotting it. Jameson Irish Whiskey is produced in Midleton, Ireland, though the original home of the brand is in Dublin. Anyhow, being 2nd generation American with grandparents from Greece, Ireland & England, I come from a long line of short, fat, peasant stock (with alcoholic tendencies, thank you). top off with chilled pulpy orange juice, AND stir lightly .. When Alfred Barnard, the British historian visited John's Lane in the late 1880s, he noted the elegance and cleanliness of the buildings, and the modernity of the distillery, describing it as "about as complete a work as it is possible to find anywhere". It has been my favorite since discovering it at the Buena Vista Cafe in San Francisco. Whiskey hasnt got a religion. It retails slightly cheaper than Jameson in the US, at $16 a bottle. Now I need to locate Redbreast! None of that means shit. I should have thought of other whisk(e)y cocktails when typing that last thought. But Class dismissed. Bushmills is produced from 100% malted barley and grain whiskey (which it receives from the Midleton Distillery in Co. Cork where Jameson is made). Im not sure that it says anything more than that it isnt a strictly American argument. OK, OK, can be pretty good and certainly much cheaper. Three persons in one God: Father, Son and Holy . In particular the 1951 offering of which Ive never tasted its superior. I hear that William Grant & Sons has a contract with LDI to have Tullamore Dew produced in Cork until 2025, so they will have to either be creative to release anything from the new distillery or have some mighty fine aged whiskey come the latter half of the next decade. I visited Bushmills Distillery, and they were bottling both Bushmills and Jameson in the same facility!! Great smooth flavor and a soft long finish. Who really cares. Several years ago, I worked in Bulgaria and a couple of other Balkan republics; and found to my surprise that Irish Whiskey is somewhat popular there, though far outpaced by the ubiquitous Balkan hard liquors Rakija and Mastika. In the tv show The Wire McNulty made a comment about not drinking that fucking Protesant whiskey when asked by Bunk why he always drank Jamesons. One company that undeniably did discriminate against Catholics though was Guinness in Dublin yet i dont see any boycotts in place for that. Polarised. I answered, Episcopalian because we think of ourselves as both and neither. The widely-accepted Irish-American version is that Jameson is Catholic whiskey and Bushmills is Protestant whiskey. Currently, I go though a case of Jameson for every bottle of Bushmills that we sell at our bar. In a TALL glass.one shot of [11], In 1961, a Coffey still was installed in John's Lane Distillery, allowing the production of vodka and gin, in addition to the testing of grain whiskey for use in blended whiskey. Youd be hard to convince me it is 40 proof, much less 80. Believe in the Trinity of God. The fun is is teasing those who do not know/care to understand. A friend of mine hooked me on Jerrys Drink which is 1 part Jameson 12, 1 part Irish Mist and a quick splash of 7-up or Sprite. Its summer here in Oregon, which means barbecues, camping trips and river floats are on the agenda for the next few months. To this day, even though IDL sold the Bushmills distillery to Diageo a number of years ago, the bottling facility at Bushmills still handles some of the bottling of Jameson, Powers & Paddys. In 1841, John Power, grandson of the founder was awarded a baronetcy, a hereditary title. [1] In recent years, several single pot still variants have been relaunched under the Powers label. Drink is one thing that unites Ireland it is shocking to see that some, primarily in the US, try to politicise it. I can see you have been horribly scared by the conflict. Bad Catholic that I am, I always drank Bushmills over Jameson. . Powers Gold Label for me, thank you very much. The numbers level out when it comes to religions those. Now this character I met at the bar is trying to tell me its the other way around. Another Figoli Quinn Website (Digital Ocean) | Also, what in the heck does Virginia have to do with Kentucky Bourbon??? The difference between the two has to do with the history of whiskey production in Ireland. Irish whiskey comes in two forms, Catholic and Protestant. Delicious! Besides, Id have to prove I can fill a job where the company cant find a local. Oh, and as your average American that enjoys the brown, I contend that my enjoyment of scotch does not come at the expense of the Irish, Kentuckians, Tennesseeans or even Canadians! And while the distillery had a larger proportion of Protestants than Catholics, this was down to the demographics of the area in which the town of Bushmills is situated which is largely a protestant area and the employment status reflects that. Arthur Guinness was a Protestant and a Unionist. ** TONIGHT!! When I lived in Providence, there was a lot of Powers drinking going on. Really liked Knockando but I havent seen it around in some time. In whiskey world Northern Ireland is considered to be part of the irish island so no reason to judge Bushmills to be protestant or not. Irish for the whiskey : ). In my opinion, its one of the blandest, albeit smoothest, whiskeys Ive tasted. His policies were considered heavily pro-Catholic. Ill have to try a Manhattan next. I can solve this argument. Im not surprised this thread is still going strong. I rag on about political whisky to those who are green only on the 17th and 18th of March.Hell, I even Thanks for the clarification. I live in a small town in Texas, I am Catholic and I am treated as if I am a leper. Though Jameson is currently distilled in lovely Cork, it was actually founded and first distilled in Dublin. And if you just like something different then Cooleys your distillery (though that Michael Collins stuff is shite). These two fine whiskeys should be enjoyed in a glass and not on some pseudo-religious podium. It is a distinct and beautiful expression of the craft. Utter nonsense. One of them said, My enemys enemy is my friend.. It's been going on for thousands of years across the globe. in response to Irish whiskey is it catholic or protestant is irrelevant it is who is drinking it. as the visit was ending up with only 3 tiny plastic glasses half full. So, I figured then maybe I was Protestant Irish? Clean, fresh. Irish whiskey is only good for shots. And we should all be thankful for this. Im an American Catholic raised in the bible belt, West Virginia to be exact. Bushmills isnt produed deep in the heart of protestant country its produced on the north coast which is mixed catholic and protestant, sure the catholic stronghold Glens of Antrim are down the road. However, ownership remained in the family until 1966, and several descendants of his sisters remained at work with the company until recent times. Check it out: http://whiskiesoftheworld.com. Believe in the Trinity of God. Will never forgive parents. If I had a choice between Macallan 18 and Redbreast, think Id stay Irish. Granted, I dont mix my whiskey with Coke or Ginger Ale, so perhaps Im missing the best presentation of Powers Gold Label. Cheers! In side-by-side STEEL CAGES!! Despised it. There were licenses to distill granted in and around the Bushmills area in 1608. Wow, this was such a fun read through. Im redbreast girl too, but recently been sipping on the Bushmills 10, thought now Im interested to try Powers Gold Label! Slainte. Though Bushmills is the #2 Irish whiskey in the U.S., Tullamore Dew is #2 Irish whiskey (after Jameson) worldwide, so not too surprising that you would see it most places. Bushmills, on the other hand, was officially licensed in 1608 by King James I (of Bible fame) and despite of its location deep in the heart of Protestant country (and this next bit is straight from my local Bushmills rep, so take it or leave it) has a Catholic as a master distiller. I remember back in my younger days hearing of the Troubles and feeling for those involved and I felt mostly for the Catholics. I completely understand what Matt is saying regarding religious intolerence. Never once was I presented with a this is the north, or this is Ireland like many seem to believe in the States. Nuts. Whereas Bushmills is seen (by some) as British because it is located in Northern Ireland (which is part of the UK)and there is a political bias against it from some quarters. Thank you everyone for the new rea, Finally home from three wonderful days in Berlin a, When life gives you fresh passionfruits. Not one of ya mentions Knappogue Castle. Just got back from Dublin yesterday & loved reading the post & all the comments here. The northern Protestant states, angered by the violation of their rights to choose granted in the Peace of Augsburg, banded together to form the Protestant Union. It is the second-largest-selling brand of Irish whiskey globally, with sales of over 1,500,000 cases per annum as of 2020. The Protestant Reformation was a religious reform movement that swept through Europe in the 1500s. Ill take one next time Im out. For this reason, Bushmills has a bigger flavor, while Jameson has a much lighter flavor. Spose its kinda like Rangers (hoik-phew) and Celtic FC really. 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